Kelly's Postal directory list: Lower Marsh 1840.

This is information from Kelly's postal directory in 1840 for the Lower Marsh. It lists all the shops from no's 1 – 142.

Now remember when you look at this that Waterloo station and any railways were not created at this time (they were eight years away to be precise); the nearest station was Nine Elms and that was only two years old. Many of the side streets going off would have led into further side streets and alleys. Granby Place, far from being the little closed off yard that it is today would have extended much further down and at one point had its own pub 'The Marquis of Granby' at No.43.

First Name	Surname	Street number	Profession
Lion	Levy	1	Clothes salesman
Nathaniel	Lamacraft	2	Butcher
James	Shields	3	Gasfitter
Jno. Henry	Watchorn	4	Wine merchant
Charles	Abbott	4	Cheesemonger
Edwin	Holloway	6	Grocer
Robert	Spencer	10	Leather cutter
Henry	Simpson	11	Marine stores
William	Swanton	12	Butcher
Issac	Hart	13	Clothes salesman
Daniel	Godfrey	14	Corn dealer
Nathan	Harris	15	Appraiser
Thomas	Carveth	16	Old Bell
James	Wallworth	17	Currier
John	Whitlock	19	Cheesemonger
John	Faker	20	Baker
John	Stillwell	21	Butcher
William	Jennings	22	Grocer
James	Rogers	23	Tobacconist
William	Wilton	24	Fixture dealer
William	Hammerton	25	Hair cutter
Thomas	Denny	26	Corn dealer
William	Carr	27	Gas fitter & c.
Peter	Sweeney	28	Porkman
William	Robinson	29	Baker
James	Macintyre	30	Cheesemonger
James	Cook	31	Furniture broker
Thomas	Hall	32	Oil & colourman
William	Gayler	33	Baker
Thomas	Woodin	34	Spanish Patriot
George	Bean	35	Tripeman
George	Mugilston	36	Surgeon
Emmanuel	Levy	37	Clothes salesman
William	Marston	38	Baker
Matthew	Cass	39	Cheesemonger
Edwin Thomas	Teather	40	Oilman
Edward	Grove	41	Clothes dealer
Henry	Bosworth	42	Corn dealer
Walter	Robins	43	Baker
Robert	Hanks	44	Hat & cap manufacturer
Sobieski, Oxley	Clements	45	Potato
Thomas	Knowler	46	Cheesemonger
John	Nicholls	47	Plumber
Charles	Paddon	48	Clothes salesman
Charles	James	49	Grocer
John	Dawson	50	Potato salesman
Wm	Musselwhite	51	Egg merchant
William	Dibdin	52	Hair cutter
John	Jenkins	54	Boot & shoe warehouse
John	Rayner	55	Coffee rooms
Peter	Edwards	56	Timber merchants
Robert	Brown	57	Baker
John	Horwell	58	Cheesemonger
John	Sewell	59	Surgeon
Edward	Grove	60	Clothes dealer
Thomas	Wybroo	63	Grocer
Thomas	Staker	64	Olive Branch
John	Lashbrook	68	Oil and colourist
Thomas Cotterell	Hall	69	Baker
Cooke	& Don	70	Surgeons
Ralph & Henry	Snead	71	Boot & shoe warehouse
Ann	Ashbourne	72	Clothes dealer
John	Christie	73	Timber merchant
John	Hitching	75	Tobacconist
WIlliam Henry	Manners	76	Oilman
Amelia	Parker	77	Grocer
Henry	Mortlock	78	Butcher
William	Parsons	79	Baker
Thomas	Murley	80	Shopkeeper
George	Gee	81	Confectioner
WIlliam	Dicker	82	Pawnbroker
WIlliam	Dicker	83	Pawnbroker
Edward	Haynes	85	Grocer
------	Tower	86	Boot & shoe maker
Benjamin	Budge	87	Butcher
John	Hight	88	TIn-plate worker
WIlliam	Bird	89	Boot & shoe maker
James King Amphlett	Williams	90	Chymist & druggist
Thomas	Hooke	91	Confectioner
George	King	92	Fishmonger
Barnard	White	93	Butcher
Edward	Wallis	94	Boot & shoe maker
George	Headon	95	Tobacconist
Sarah	Fairbairn	96	Butcher
Thomas	Cooper	97	Butcher
James	Smith	98	Fruiterer
William	Mortlock	99	Butcher
James	Sanders	100	Cheesemonger
Thos.	Lock	101	Grocer & tea dealer
Stephen	Booth	102	Cabinet maker
John Taylor	Lucy	103	Fishmonger
Thomas	White	104	Whitesmith
John	Roberts	105	Potato salesman
Edward	Sheppard	106	Butcher
Henry	Wright	107	Three Compasses
Greathead	Hutton & Co	108	Cheesemongers
Robert	Noyes	109	Baker
Thomas	Woodward	110	Grocer
John	Squires	111	Tin-plate worker
David	Worrell	112	Eating house
John	Budge	113	Butcher
Thos	Cox	114	Boot & shoe warehouse
Samuel	Seldon	115	Fishmonger
William	Clark	116	Grocer
James	Bond	117	Butcher
Elizabeth	Gregory	119	Greengrocer
Ann	Cary	120	Stationer
Hugh	Bradley	121	Artichoke
Thomas	Horton	122	Butcher
Sarah	Painter	123	Cooper
Beatrix	Price	124	General dealer
Lawrence	Friend	125	General dealer
Nathaniel Geo	Coombes	126	China dealer
Thomas	Salter	127	Eating house
Henry	Woods	128	Tripe dresser
Wm	Caulder	129	Hat manufacturer
John Orrick	Kennard	130	Linen draper
Frederick	Creak	131	Baker
John	Smith	132	Oil & colourman
RIchard	Davis	133	Confectioner
John	Bowles	134	Pork butcher
John	Slater	135	Boot & c. warehouse
William	Deller	136	Greengrocer
John	Priest	137	Dining rooms
John	Priest	138	Dining rooms
George	Spephens	139	Baker
Edward	Trickey	140	Butcher
George	Barber	141	Grocer
George	Barber	142	Grocer

The first thing to note is that at No.1, Mr 'Lion' Levy is how it is written in the directory, I know that for future publications he is 'Lyon' but I will put what has been printed on the original.

There was something that stood out for me in this: there seems to have been a pub at no.16 as there is reference to 'Old Bell' and a name of Thomas Carveth next to it.

I have checked the Pub History website for Thomas Carveth and the only reference that comes up is for 1839 where Thomas Carveth is shown alongside the name 'Old Bell' at no.16.

Most references to the Lower Marsh talk about the Old and New Dover Castles, the Red Lion, Artichoke, Spanish Patriot, the Three Compasses and the Olive Branch. Not even Graham Gibberd's 'On Lambeth Marsh' lists this pub. Considering that the only references that I can find for this is both the 1839 pub directory and Kelly's for 1840, I am assuming that the pub may not have been there for very long. I looked at Kelly's Directory for 1841 there is no listing for No.16, it is the same with 1843 as well (I could not find the 1842 records). the next time it is noted is in 1844 when the proprietor is a 'Liman Cohen: Furniture Broker'. 

 Sobieski Clements at No.45 just had 'potato' under the occupation, which I believe may have meant either potato salesman or dealer.

Interview with We are Waterloo.

I recently did an interview with the organisation 'We are Waterloo' about my research:

http://www.wearewaterloo.co.uk/articles/waterloo-history-lower-marsh

Please let other people know who you think may be interested.

I hope you enjoy.

Interview with We Are Waterloo UK

I recently did an interview for the website We Are Waterloo UK and also did some photos; these will be published soon.

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The Costermongers' Petition of 1856.

With the establishment of Waterloo Station in 1848 plus the influx of immigrants into Lambeth from the Irish Potato Famine and Eastern Europe; the New Cut Market by the 1850's had burgeoned into the Lower Marsh..

With increasing problems due to obstruction, the police began to remove the barrows and carts that were unlicensed; whilst this may have helped with the issue of street obstruction, it caused a great deal of anguish to the shopkeepers who would have invariably made their money from both the Costermongers and customers visiting the markets.

In 1856, a petition was drawn up and sent to the Lambeth Parish Vestry to ask for permission of the Costermongers to have their stalls legitimately placed.

The petition is referred to in at least one book as 'The Costermongers Petition”, but in truth, it is a petition signed by the shop owners of The Lower Marsh. It seems that the shop owners, fearing loss of trade due to the removal of the stalls, petitioned on behalf of the Costers.

From what Alec Foreshaw and Theo Bergstrom say in their 1989 book: “The Markets of London”; the petition was not successful; but the Costers simply carried on pitching their stalls regardless of the outcome.

A rough calculation of shops in the Lower Marsh listed in Kellys' Postal Directory for 1857 shows the numbers of various shops in the street: Butchers: 15; Clothiers: 13; Bakers: 12; Boot & Shoe Makers and sellers: 9; Cheesemongers: 7; Grocers:7; Potato Dealers: 6; Oilmen: 5; Public Houses: 5; Coffee & Dining Rooms: 5; Drapers: 5; Corn Dealers: 3; Fishmongers: 3; China & Glass Dealers: 2; Timber Merchants:2 Tobacconists: 2; Pastrycooks: 2; Stationers, Lead and Glass dealers, Surgeons, Coopers, Confectioners, Pawnbrokers, and Tinplate Workers: 1.

Many of the signatures were illegible and I had to use the1857 Directory (the 1856 edition being unavailable) to work out the names; some I couldn't make out or the name listed on the petition didn't relate to the name in the 1857 Directory (this may be due to either people loosing their place of work, or it may be that someone else from the shop signed the petition in the absence of the shop owner).

I have listed, where I could find it from the directory, the occupation of the shop owner and have put this in brackets after the address.

Page1

To the gentlemen of the board of vestry of the Parish of Lambeth.

Gentlemen

The humble petition of the Costermongers residents of the parish of Lambeth showeth that your petitioners have been getting their living for many years by keeping stalls in the Lower Marsh .

Through the removal of their stalls by the police, your petitioners,with their wives and families, are deprived of the means of getting an honest livelihood.

Your petitioners therefore pray the Board of Vestry permission to stand in the Lower Marsh and as such regulations as the gentleman of the board may deem fit and we on our part will pledge ourselves faithfully to observe the same.

On behalf of the Costermongers

Charles Robinson.

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To the tradesmen and the public of the Lower Marsh Lambeth and its vicinity June 16^th 1856.

The humble petition of Charles Robinson and others humbly showeth that your petitioners have been getting their living in the aforesaid place through the removal of their stands by the police your petitioners with their wives and families are new deprived of the same we therefore beg your humble assistance and your petitioners will ever pray:

Edw Grove Lower Marsh .

Thos Lilley 37 Lower Marsh . (Bootmaker)

Tho Cartwright 27 Lower Marsh (In 1857 Directory: Mrs Ellen Cartwright Clothier &c)

G Worrall 112 Lower Marsh (Dining Rooms)

S Seldon 115 Lower Marsh (Sen. Tripe Dresser)

R Robinson 118 Lower Marsh (Hairdresser)

R Foulger 134-135 Lower Marsh (China & Glass Dealer)

R Tucker 120 Lower Marsh (Cheesemonger)

Watson Artichoke Lambeth (Landlord of “The Artichoke”)

Armstrong 123 Lower Marsh (Cooper)

Tho Horton 124 Lower Marsh (Butcher)

J crane 127 Lower Marsh (Oilman)

H Woods 128 Lower Marsh (Tripe Dressers)

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F Creak 131 Lower Marsh Lambeth (Baker)

S Vandersluis 133 Lower Marsh (Tailor)

J ********** 4 Lower Marsh

A Spencer(?) 10 Lower Marsh Lambeth (Currier)

H Simpson 11 Lower Marsh Lambeth (Ironmonger)

E Platt 7 Lower Marsh (Rag Merchant)

W Swanton 12 Lower Marsh Lambeth. (Butcher)

Mr M Ohler 14 Lower Marsh Baker.(Baker)

Benj. Montague, 16 Lower Marsh ( Clothes Salesman)

Frederick Garnett? 18 Lower Marsh

John Holdstock 21 Lower Marsh (Butcher)

James Saml Whitehead 28 Lower Marsh Lambeth. (Pork Butcher)

William Robinson 29 Lower Marsh Lambeth (Baker)

Thomas Hall 32 Lower Marsh (Oilman)

Edward Bingemann 33 Lower Marsh (Baker)

James Empson 107 Lower Marsh (Landlord of “The Three Compasses”).

Elizabeth Thorn 110 Lower Marsh .

John Leighton 103 Lower Marsh (Hatter).

James Hopkins 93* Lower Marsh (Stationer - *95 Lower Marsh in Directory)

Thomas Brown 94 Lower Marsh

Coleman Simmons 93 Lower Marsh Lambeth (Tinplate Worker)

Raphael Benjamin 80 Lower Marsh (Fishmonger)

Thomas Collins Lower Marsh (Beer Retailer no. 88 Lower Marsh )

Edw'd Bridgman 26 Lower Marsh (Corn Dealer)

John Griffiths 87 Lower Marsh (Butcher)

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George Johnson 89 Lower Marsh (Shoe Maker)

W.R.Bland 91 Lower Marsh (tobacconist)

Robert Moore 108 Lower Marsh (Corn Dealer)

Paul Spillane 23 Lower Marsh (Shoemaker)

Wm Hawell(?) 114 Lower Marsh (Butcher)

Wm(?) Jennings(?) 22 Lower Marsh (Grocer)

Sam l (?) Manning 119 Lower Marsh (Chemist)

John Morrison 125 Lower Marsh (Potato Salesman)

A Jones 15 Lower Marsh (Abraham Jones -Butcher)

Andrew Hare 9(?) 4(?) III (?) Lower Marsh (Boot and Shoe Maker)

William Collins 6 Lower Marsh

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Edw Wm Haynes 88 Lower Marsh (88 Lower Marsh in 1857 Directory lists Tho Collins )

“ “ “ 46 Lower Marsh (Baker)

William Nichols 47 Lower Marsh (Lead & Glass Merchant)

Frederick Merriman 99 Lower Marsh (1857 Directory lists William Swanton at this address)

James Meadows 100 Lower Marsh (Cheesemonger)

W Vickress 34 Lower Marsh (William Vickress Landlord of “The Spanish Patriot”).

W Niscon(?) 81 Lower Marsh

J N Hole 78 Lower Marsh (Joseph Nelson Hole Butcher)

Mr Seabrook 77 Lower Marsh (Charles Seabrook – Grocer)

H J Spice 76 Lower Marsh (Henry James Spice – Oilman)

J Perrett 75 Lower Marsh (John Perrett – Tobacconist)

J Scott 74 Lower Marsh (1857 Directory lists No. 74 as John Lovett - Bootmaker)

S or C Fricke 73 Lower Marsh

H Lyons 72 Lower Marsh (Henry Lyons – Tailor)

Tho King Cheesemonger 58 Lower Marsh

John Perrett 54 Lower Marsh (Carpenter & c)

Henry Bries (?) 55 Lower Marsh

Edward Blanchard 53 Lower Marsh (Pastrycook)

Hyam Levy 52 Lower Marsh (Clothier)

Wm Musselwhite 51 Lower Marsh (William Musselwhite – Cheesemonger)

Moses Harris 48 Lower Marsh (Clothier)

Thomas Callin 44 Lower Marsh (Cheesemonger)

Robert Mackness 43 Lower Marsh (Baker)

John Weatherley 90 Lower Marsh (Hosier)

The Old Dover Castle Hotel and Restaurant, 170 Westminster Bridge Road and Lower Marsh.

As many people may or may not know, this building was a Hotel for a short while and then a public house up till the 1960's; its rather shabby appearance now is juxtaposed to its early history. The building that now stands was designed by the Architects Treadwell and Martin and was styled in a Jacobean Revival style in red brick and stone, it was completed in 1895. 

It's an imposing building still today but unfortunately has become derelict after being used for offices and a Language School. Compare the above photographs from today to the grand affair from 1896 here.

The pub served as both a public house plus a hotel and restaurant to more wealthy people; the public bar having the bare minimum of décor: sawdust on the bare floorboards and the most amount of choice of cheap drink, some in great barrels and lots of beer pumps (ten counted in the Lemere photograph which can be found here).

The Saloon Bar, Dining Room, and Grill Room in comparison had refinement: Italian mosaic, palm plants, carpeting throughout, marble and wood panelling; almost floor to ceiling mirrors in the Grill Room and well made 'buttock supporting' stools for its clientèle in the bar. It even had its own BilliardRoom with at least two billiard tables and fancy leather button-down chairs.

Although it was quite common for some public houses to appropriate the designation “Hotel” to deter the wrath of the increasingly vocal Prohibitionist Party's of the day; I do believe that this building did actually serve as a hotel. Its location near to Westminster, the West End, its accessibility to Kennington, or Southwark via the Omnibus or Hansom cabs (a cabstand was stationed right outside according to maps of the time) would have made this a prime spot to stay for business travelers. Although reports of the area were derogatory (police having to go in pairs down the market etc), it could not have been that bad if they set up a hotel with such opulence inside to attract that type of customer.

Sebastien Ardouin, on his blog site "Painted Signs and Mosaics" informs that the Hotel was bought in the early 1920's by the Pioneer Catering Company, he also has a photo of a fading painted sign on the back of the building.

A year after its opening, the architectural photography firm of Bedford Lemere and Company were employed to take both internal and external photographs; these (from the English Heritage website) and another photograph from 1955, from the City of London website, are all I can find on the internet to show the building in its former life. 

 

There have been some alterations to the building since its usage as a pub and it is fairly difficult to ascertain what were part of the original pub and what are later additions; the hoarding that has been added to the ground floor frontage, I hope, masks the original ornate stonework that is in the photos from 1896. 

The pillars which can be seen are made of thin sheets of marble; one of which, has been destroyed and the bare brickwork is exposed; I am not sure if there are the originals or not. Also there is a very nineteen sixties mosaic pattern that runs along the bottom of the building; I think that most of the original ground floor frontage which seems to have been in granite may have been removed. It intrigues me to wonder what is in the ground floor are inside, as the windows have metal sheeting on them; I doubt if any of the original bar would be there still. 

Previous to the 1895 building there was a pub of the same name, according to Post Office records, on the site since certainly 1869.

When I was a child, I have a vague memory of the building being used as offices although I could be wrong in this; if anybody knows, as with the other posts, please do get in touch as similarly if you have or know of any pictures or information of the pub in its heyday.

Joseph Tappy and the market carts.

A few days ago I went on a walk with my camera, taking pictures of the market when it was quiet;  and I spotted the carts in the main road. These carts-or stalls- are synonymous with all London markets; each market seems to have had its own maker or keeper of carts.

I remember seeing on the web that some makers carved their name into the side of the cart; on closer inspection, these carts all had the same name carved into them too:

 I found it difficult to make out the name, it's carved very ornately; I could make out the "22 Saville Place, Lambeth Walk". I could make out a "J" and a "T" but nothing more:



Thank goodness for Google; this turns out to be the work of one, Joseph Tappy, he was established by 1910 at 22 Saville Place, this was off Lambeth Walk; it carried on from Walnut Tree Walk when people  crossed Lambeth Walk. I looked on Google maps and even used the street view to find it and it's no longer there, the area is now covered by the China Walk Estate. I also used google to quickly see when the last time Saville Place is mentioned, it seems that there was damage due to a flying bomb in 1944 and Saville Place is mentioned.   It's quite possible that this cart chassis is between 68 and 102 years old; I would surmise that it's somewhere in the middle or toward the later dates myself. This cart seems to have had the wheels replaced my a set of modern ones with pneumatic tyres; the more traditional ones are seen here on the other set of carts that were nearby.

Joseph Tappy moved premises a few times apparently, finally settling on 9 Newport Street; I found out, courtesy of Google Maps, that the original area is now covered by a modern housing development.
I will need to find out if they are still trading, and if so, would they be willing to have a chat with me about the company. Hopefully I can find someone who used to work there or is related in some way. I also found on the internet  two other pieces of  information: one, that the company was last seen trading under the name of J & J Tappy and was listed at the Newport St address so this must be fairly old information. Plus, there was a relative who built and maintained carts in East Street Market. It may well be that the Tappys' had various works over a wide area of South London, dealing with the different markets such as those at Brixton, The Borough, etc, in fact, anywhere there were markets.

Anyway, back to the carts; these and the previous pictures show the handiwork of the people involved in making these great historical, almost iconic objects.

The modern replica, seen below and used mainly for clothes, certainly is not very appealing to my eyes and I doubt if it will stand the test of time as well as these wonderfully older objects.



Really, all that the old carts need is a bit of a refurb and a lick of paint to make them almost a showpiece for the market; with the red and green contrast, they have the look of a Travellers Caravan about them.
I have been told that the market stalls are starting to increase again, maybe a new cart-maker could be employed to make replicas of these fine old workhorses with the same spoked wheels etc.
If anybody knows anything about the Tappys' of Lambeth Walk or any that had a hand in or knew of any that made carts, I would very much like to know if they are still trading or what has happened to them.


Update: 27/4/12. I would like to thank my sister Catherine who deals in genealogy at www.cathgen.co.uk for taking the time to search the Tappy name and reveal some interesting information.
Not only did Joseph Tappy build and repair carts, or 'Barrows' as he puts it on the census form in 1911; he also leased them to the traders. This must have been a lucrative business as many of the Coster's may not have had the money to own and store the carts so it would have been easier to rent them; a lucrative and wise move by Mr Tappy. Also I found out that on the census there was an Elisabeth, a daughter, who must have been only  a few months old at that time; she may well be the relative who later helped in the business of repairing barrows in East Street Market that I wrote about above. And the J & J Tappy that traded from Newport St later on may well have been either a business set up by either the original Joseph and one of his sons, who were called John and Joseph or by the two brothers.
The census records show that the original Joseph Tappy was born in Lambeth in 1873, his wife, Julia, was born in 1881 in Southwark and that they married in 1901; they may well have lived in Southwark during the early part of the 20th Century, as the first three children: Joseph, John and Rebecca, were all born within that Borough in 1902, 1903 and 1905 respectively. The last three: Julia (1907), William(1909) and Elisabeth (born between 1909 and 1911) were born in Lambeth  . So the Elder Joseph has already settled in Lambeth at least by 1907.
Finally, there is another site that deals with the barrows/carts of Spitalfields, Leather Lane and also possibly other markets within the City of London; that family was called Hiller and is extensively written about plus has information on different aspects of Spitalfields past and present; it can be found here.


Update 29/4/12. On searching through Google pictures, what seems like a sheer stroke of luck, I came across this photograph from the City of London Library collage site; it shows the address of   22 Saville Place being demolished and the sign of "J. Tappy: Barrow Builder and Lender". It says that the firm was established in 1903 which corrects my assumption that it started in 1910.

Help requested and always welcomed.

If anybody has any information on the following areas, The New Cut street market, The Lambeth Walk, The Lower Marsh and Carlisle Lane, in the Victorian era. Also, if you know the makers names of the carts used in the markets, where they were/are made. I would very much like to know any information basically related to the history of the market that you might know about or have heard. Do you know of any family members that used to be costermongers or own or work in shops in any of the streets where the market was held? Maybe you or a family member lived nearby? Any information would be helpful to me.

The beginnings.

This blog has been created to help with my researches into the origins and heyday of the New Cut Market in Lambeth, South London that became notorious in the nineteenth century.  This market, at two miles in length started sometime in the mid 1840's and during the later part of the nineteenth century occupied a continuous  two mile stretch that included:The Cut, Lower Marsh, Carlisle Lane, Sail Street and The Lambeth Walk all the way up to Vauxhall.
Every conceivable item was sold; similar to what a modern market would sell: Fruit and veg, meat and poultry, fish and shellfish, clothes and footwear, hats and head wear, tools etc. This market must have drawn to it people from all over the area for very different reasons; it's my hope that I can find information relating to not just the market but the side trades that fed off it.