Monday, 26 May 2014
Well I didn't know that!
Just as an aside, the terms 'fancy man' and 'fancy woman' I used to hear when I was a child but not so much now, in those days it meant a girlfriend/boyfriend or lover or someone you were seen with. But from what it seems from the site describing Victorian occupations, 'fancy man' originally meant a pimp and 'fancy woman' meant a prostitute. Now either those terms meant something else and were used as slang or they were created to describe both those occupations but gradually changed with usage.
Descriptions of the occupations listed in Kelly's directories.
Many of the occupations listed are
nearly or exactly the same today as they were then and need no explanation (i.e.
butcher, tailor, boot maker etc); I have put some up and may fill in others at a later date.
I got most of the information from this site listing various Victorian occupations.
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Cheesemonger |
Dealer in cheese and butter. |
|
Marine Store Dealer |
A person who buys and sells used cordage, bunting, rags,
timber, metal, etc, sorts waste, repairs and mends sacks. |
|
Surgeon Gen Pract: Regd |
G.P. - a doctor |
|
Currier |
One who dresses the coat of a horse with a curry comb, or one
who cures or tans hides |
|
Cutler |
knife seller or sharpener |
|
Cowkeeper, Cowman or milkseller |
kept one or more cows and sold the milk from the front door, or
from door to door |
|
Oilman |
One who sold oil for lamps. |
|
Colour Man |
mixed the dyes in the textile trade and also assistant to a
house painter |
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Pork Butcher |
A butcher who specialised in Pork meat. |
Tripe Dressers and Tripe Dealers.
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It was usually made from the first of the cow’s three stomachs (the rumen). You could get flat tripe, also known as smooth or blanket tripe, and honeycomb or pocket tripe. There was also a type known variously as book, leaf or bible tripe.
Kelly's Postal directory list: Lower Marsh 1840.
This is information from Kelly's postal
directory in 1840 for the Lower Marsh. It lists all the shops from
no's 1 – 142.
Now remember when you look at this that
Waterloo station and any railways were not created at this time (they
were eight years away to be precise); the nearest station was Nine
Elms and that was only two years old. Many of the side streets
going off would have led into further side streets and alleys. Granby
Place, far from being the little closed off yard that it is today
would have extended much further down and at one point had its own
pub 'The Marquis of Granby' at No.43.
|
First Name |
Surname |
Street number |
Profession |
|
Lion |
Levy |
1 |
Clothes salesman |
|
Nathaniel |
Lamacraft |
2 |
Butcher |
|
James |
Shields |
3 |
Gasfitter |
|
Jno. Henry |
Watchorn |
4 |
Wine merchant |
|
Charles |
Abbott |
4 |
Cheesemonger |
|
Edwin
|
Holloway |
6 |
Grocer |
|
Robert
|
Spencer |
10 |
Leather cutter |
|
Henry |
Simpson |
11 |
Marine stores |
|
William |
Swanton |
12 |
Butcher |
|
Issac |
Hart |
13 |
Clothes salesman |
|
Daniel |
Godfrey |
14 |
Corn dealer |
|
Nathan |
Harris |
15 |
Appraiser |
|
Thomas
|
Carveth |
16 |
Old Bell |
|
James |
Wallworth |
17 |
Currier |
|
John |
Whitlock |
19 |
Cheesemonger |
|
John |
Faker |
20 |
Baker |
|
John |
Stillwell |
21 |
Butcher |
|
William |
Jennings |
22 |
Grocer |
|
James |
Rogers |
23 |
Tobacconist |
|
William |
Wilton |
24 |
Fixture dealer |
|
William |
Hammerton |
25 |
Hair cutter |
|
Thomas |
Denny |
26 |
Corn dealer |
|
William |
Carr |
27 |
Gas fitter & c. |
|
Peter
|
Sweeney |
28 |
Porkman |
|
William |
Robinson |
29 |
Baker |
|
James |
Macintyre |
30 |
Cheesemonger |
|
James |
Cook |
31 |
Furniture broker |
|
Thomas |
Hall |
32 |
Oil & colourman |
|
William |
Gayler |
33 |
Baker |
|
Thomas |
Woodin |
34 |
Spanish Patriot |
|
George
|
Bean |
35 |
Tripeman |
|
George |
Mugilston |
36 |
Surgeon |
|
Emmanuel |
Levy |
37 |
Clothes salesman |
|
William |
Marston |
38 |
Baker |
|
Matthew |
Cass |
39 |
Cheesemonger |
|
Edwin Thomas |
Teather |
40 |
Oilman |
|
Edward |
Grove |
41 |
Clothes dealer |
|
Henry |
Bosworth |
42 |
Corn dealer |
|
Walter |
Robins |
43 |
Baker |
|
Robert |
Hanks |
44 |
Hat & cap manufacturer |
|
Sobieski, Oxley |
Clements |
45 |
Potato |
|
Thomas |
Knowler |
46 |
Cheesemonger |
|
John |
Nicholls |
47 |
Plumber |
|
Charles |
Paddon |
48 |
Clothes salesman |
|
Charles |
James |
49 |
Grocer |
|
John |
Dawson |
50 |
Potato salesman |
|
Wm |
Musselwhite |
51 |
Egg merchant |
|
William |
Dibdin |
52 |
Hair cutter |
|
John |
Jenkins |
54 |
Boot & shoe warehouse |
|
John |
Rayner |
55 |
Coffee rooms |
|
Peter
|
Edwards |
56 |
Timber merchants |
|
Robert |
Brown |
57 |
Baker |
|
John |
Horwell |
58 |
Cheesemonger |
|
John |
Sewell |
59 |
Surgeon |
|
Edward |
Grove |
60 |
Clothes dealer |
|
Thomas |
Wybroo |
63 |
Grocer |
|
Thomas |
Staker |
64 |
Olive Branch |
|
John |
Lashbrook |
68 |
Oil and colourist |
|
Thomas Cotterell |
Hall |
69 |
Baker |
|
Cooke
|
& Don |
70 |
Surgeons
|
|
Ralph & Henry |
Snead |
71 |
Boot & shoe warehouse |
|
Ann |
Ashbourne |
72 |
Clothes dealer |
|
John |
Christie |
73 |
Timber merchant |
|
John |
Hitching |
75 |
Tobacconist |
|
WIlliam Henry
|
Manners |
76 |
Oilman |
|
Amelia |
Parker |
77 |
Grocer |
|
Henry |
Mortlock |
78 |
Butcher |
|
William |
Parsons |
79 |
Baker |
|
Thomas |
Murley |
80 |
Shopkeeper |
|
George |
Gee |
81 |
Confectioner |
|
WIlliam |
Dicker |
82 |
Pawnbroker |
|
WIlliam |
Dicker |
83 |
Pawnbroker |
|
Edward |
Haynes |
85 |
Grocer |
|
------ |
Tower |
86 |
Boot & shoe maker |
|
Benjamin
|
Budge |
87 |
Butcher |
|
John |
Hight |
88 |
TIn-plate worker |
|
WIlliam |
Bird |
89 |
Boot & shoe maker |
|
James King Amphlett
|
Williams |
90 |
Chymist & druggist |
|
Thomas |
Hooke |
91 |
Confectioner |
|
George |
King |
92 |
Fishmonger |
|
Barnard |
White |
93 |
Butcher |
|
Edward |
Wallis |
94 |
Boot & shoe maker |
|
George |
Headon |
95 |
Tobacconist |
|
Sarah |
Fairbairn |
96 |
Butcher |
|
Thomas |
Cooper |
97 |
Butcher |
|
James |
Smith |
98 |
Fruiterer |
|
William |
Mortlock |
99 |
Butcher |
|
James |
Sanders |
100 |
Cheesemonger |
|
Thos.
|
Lock |
101 |
Grocer & tea dealer |
|
Stephen
|
Booth |
102 |
Cabinet maker |
|
John Taylor |
Lucy |
103 |
Fishmonger |
|
Thomas |
White |
104 |
Whitesmith |
|
John |
Roberts |
105 |
Potato salesman |
|
Edward |
Sheppard |
106 |
Butcher |
|
Henry |
Wright |
107 |
Three Compasses |
|
Greathead
|
Hutton & Co |
108 |
Cheesemongers |
|
Robert |
Noyes |
109 |
Baker |
|
Thomas |
Woodward |
110 |
Grocer |
|
John |
Squires |
111 |
Tin-plate worker |
|
David
|
Worrell |
112 |
Eating house |
|
John |
Budge |
113 |
Butcher |
|
Thos |
Cox |
114 |
Boot & shoe warehouse |
|
Samuel |
Seldon |
115 |
Fishmonger |
|
William |
Clark |
116 |
Grocer |
|
James |
Bond |
117 |
Butcher |
|
Elizabeth
|
Gregory |
119 |
Greengrocer |
|
Ann |
Cary |
120 |
Stationer |
|
Hugh |
Bradley |
121 |
Artichoke |
|
Thomas |
Horton |
122 |
Butcher |
|
Sarah |
Painter |
123 |
Cooper |
|
Beatrix |
Price |
124 |
General dealer |
|
Lawrence |
Friend |
125 |
General dealer |
|
Nathaniel Geo |
Coombes |
126 |
China dealer |
|
Thomas |
Salter |
127 |
Eating house |
|
Henry
|
Woods |
128 |
Tripe dresser |
|
Wm
|
Caulder |
129 |
Hat manufacturer |
|
John Orrick |
Kennard |
130 |
Linen draper |
|
Frederick
|
Creak |
131 |
Baker |
|
John |
Smith |
132 |
Oil & colourman |
|
RIchard |
Davis |
133 |
Confectioner |
|
John |
Bowles |
134 |
Pork butcher |
|
John |
Slater |
135 |
Boot & c. warehouse |
|
William |
Deller |
136 |
Greengrocer |
|
John |
Priest |
137 |
Dining rooms |
|
John |
Priest |
138 |
Dining rooms |
|
George
|
Spephens |
139 |
Baker |
|
Edward |
Trickey |
140 |
Butcher |
|
George |
Barber |
141 |
Grocer |
|
George |
Barber |
142 |
Grocer |
The first thing to note is that at No.1, Mr 'Lion' Levy is how it is written in the directory, I know that for future publications he is 'Lyon' but I will put what has been printed on the original.
There was something that stood out for
me in this: there seems to have been a pub at no.16 as there is
reference to 'Old Bell' and a name of Thomas Carveth next to it.
I have checked the Pub History website
for Thomas Carveth and the only reference that comes up is for 1839
where Thomas Carveth is shown alongside the name 'Old Bell' at no.16.
Most references to the Lower Marsh talk
about the Old and New Dover Castles, the Red Lion, Artichoke, Spanish
Patriot, the Three Compasses and the Olive Branch. Not even Graham
Gibberd's 'On Lambeth Marsh' lists this pub. Considering that the
only references that I can find for this is both the 1839 pub
directory and Kelly's for 1840, I am assuming that the pub may not
have been there for very long. I looked at Kelly's Directory for
1841 there is no listing for No.16, it is the same with 1843 as well
(I could not find the 1842 records). the next time it is noted is in
1844 when the proprietor is a 'Liman Cohen: Furniture Broker'.
Sobieski Clements at No.45 just had 'potato' under the occupation, which I believe may have meant either potato salesman or dealer.
Kelly's Postal Directories.
I am slowly (very slowly) compiling information from
Kelly's postal directories (a Victorian version of the phone book)
into a database and spreadsheets for the various streets I am interested in from the
year 1840 to 1950. I have chosen the year 1840 as I thought this would be a good year to start considering the area was still untouched by the railways at this time and also it may catch the market in its infancy so to speak, and 1950 allows for the second world war. I am hoping this will show the changes that
occurred in the area due to the arrival of the railways and other historical events during the 110 years.
The information also may be useful to people who are researching their family history as at least one person has contacted me in regard to a distant relative of theirs, a shopkeeper, that signed the 1856 Costermonger's petition.
Thursday, 21 November 2013
email address added.
The one thing I've never put up - due to confusion of how to do it - is put an email address on the blog. I've found out how to do this now and you will see it on the right hand side. So please email me if you wish and I will be happy to answer any questions you may have.
John.
John.
Tuesday, 17 September 2013
The Pie and Mash Shop.
Markets and Pie and Mash shops seem to
go together, and it's not without reason that this is so.
The two pie and mash shops that
predominated in Lambeth and Waterloo were Burroughs at 146 Lambeth Walk and R
Cooke's at 84 The Cut, both, sadly now gone.
Previous to shops selling produce, pies and live
eels were sold in the street to passers-by; the piemen were a regular
site on London's streets, even being included in a nursery rhyme
“Simple Simon”.
Much of the meat and eels that were
used was of dubious quality, the eels sometimes being dead a long
time before being prepared and these were mixed in with live eel meat
. In those days the resulting food poisoning could be fatal. In
order to sometimes get rid of old stock, the piemen would indulge in
the game of 'tossing the pieman' in which people, usually boys, would
toss a coin and if the pieman won he took the money but if the person
won he got a pie for free, if the piemen gave them dubious pies, it
was a win/win situation for them.
The first recorded Eel and Pie shop was
at 101 Union Street, Southwark, just a slip and a slither away from
the New Cut Market; Henry Blanchard is listed in Kelly's street
directories in 1844 as selling a variety of pies offering fillings
such as Eels, meats or fruits, these were sold for a penny each. In
addition to this, live Eels, pea soup and mashed potato were also
sold.
Freshly prepared eels in a clean-looking environment (tiled
walls and floors) meant many people gravitated to these places rather
than run the risk of food poisoning with the pieman.
The rise of the Eel and pie shop
heralded the end of the pieman and their counterparts in the Eel
trade; the damage that was done to their trade was so dramatic that it was noted in
Henry Mayhew's “London Labour and London Poor”.
Thirty years after Blanchard opened his
first shop, Kelly's Directory listed 33 eel and pie shops in London.
This began the growth of what Londoners came to know as the “Pie
and Mash shop”.
Helped, in part, by immigrants from
Italy and Ireland, many of the shops that opened are still around
today.
Robert Cooke is first recorded as
opening his shop on Bakers Row in Clerkenwell in 1889 with his second
wife Martha and his children: Robert, Amy and Fred. The shop was
situated near the market in Clerkenwell. The long term success of the
firm is attributed to hard, work, sharp business accumen and the
training of the family within the trade. Cooke's opened a shop in
The Cut at number 84 in 1938.
Michaele Manze (Mike) was an Italian
from Ravello, his Mother, father and three brothers came to England
in 1878 after walking from Ravello to Naples to catch a boat.
Primarily the family worked in the Ice business; Mike met and
befriended Robert Cooke, who introduced him to his daughter from his
first marriage: Ada. Mike and Ada married and opened up their first
shop in Bermondsey.
The reason, apparently, for Pie and
Mash shops having only a fork and a spoon comes from either of two
origins: one being that during the First World War, there were a
shortage of knives and the people going into the pie and mash shops
would take the knives they had home with them; another story goes
that the knives were withdrawn from being served after people used
them as weapons when they fought.
The last forty plus years have seen a
demise in the pie and mash shop owing to culinary cultural changes
plus the migration of large numbers of the working class out of
London to areas such as Kent and Essex. These movements can be traced
as many of the known remaining names in pie and mash Such as Cooke and Manze (as well as
newer names) have opened up shops to cater for them as this directory of the various shops on the website
“Pie and Mash Club” shows.
J C & J Field Ltd. Candle and Soap Manufacturers – 15 Upper Marsh, Lambeth.
The company was one of the oldest in
the area, it started business around 1642 and continued on the same
site – no. 15 Upper Marsh – for nearly 300 years.
Founded by Thomas Field, it continued
through a descendant, also named Thomas, who was listed in 1768 as a
wax-chandler of Lambeth and by 1800 the business was known as John &
Charles Field, Candle makers from Lambeth marshes.
During the 19th Century
candles made of Spermaceti – the oil from the head cavity of the
Sperm Whale, were produced; these were more expensive than the
ordinary – and cheaper - tallow candles which were noxious and were
well known sputter when burnt.
By 1820, the firm was listed as
'wax-chandlers to the Prince Regent' and had a shop in Wigmore
Street, and also by this time, with the addition of another John
Field, the company became known as J.C. & J Field.
In the mid 1840's, and with the rise in
interest of public health and personal cleanliness; the company began
soap manufacturing, for both both household and laundry, in lower
fore street in Lambeth. In time, this became their main production as
the demand for candles declined from the 19th Century
onwards due to the popularity of oil and gas lighting.
By 1873, the company was listing
Ozkerit Candles for sale; these candles, made with Ozkerite, a
naturally occouring mineral wax, had a higher melting point than
regular types and, as such, were favoured in hotter climates.
Ozkerit Candles became extremely popular in tropical climes, which
was, at that time, most countries of the then British Empire.
During the early 20th
century, the firm accquired premises in Rainham Essex, this period
also saw a diversification more into soap manufacture and in
particular, household soaps and luxury products; by this time the
firm had ceased using the term 'wax-chandlers'.
By the early 1940's the firm had moved
premises to Wimbledon in South London and then onto Amersham in
Buckinghamshire, in 1954. An acuisition by E.Griffiths Hughes in the
late fifties and a final amalgamation into Aspro-Nicholas in 1960
snuffed out Fields long and illustrious history.
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